# Phase Angle Between Signals

|The following article was written in response to a question from a visitor to the website. The gentleman in question had been reading some of the Prosig signal processing articles and had the following question.

Dear Sir, It was interesting reading the articles in your mail.I would like to know the options available in hardware and/or software for measurement/calculation of phase angle of first harmonic of a vibration signal which is sinosoidal. The phase angle is the relative phase angle difference between the signal and the tacho - one into rpm signal. Regards. etc.

Dr Colin Mercer, Technical Director at Prosig, sent the following reply.

Dear Sir Your enquiry has been passed on to me to answer. In short the answer is a definite Yes. I have attatched an example using a tacho and a phase modulated sinewave in a word document. This shows the detail phase variation as a function of time, which is like the phase lag in a motor but is a bit more more complex! Because we use synchronous re sampling techniques the method handles speed fluctuations as well. The Prosig software you would need is the DATS package with the rotating machinery option. We are very used to working with rotating machinery and including power station turbines, electrical motors, car engines, aircraft engines and so on. The simplest scheme is if we can also acquire the data with our hardware – however the software does have a lot of data import capabilities as well. Colin Mercer Ph D, BSc(Eng), FBCS, C Eng Technical Director, Prosig

The remainder of this article contains the notes written by Dr. Mercer to accompany his reply.

### Phase angle between signals

The objective is to demonstrate calculation of the time varying phase between a reference signal (tacho) and a sine wave. Two test signals were generated using standard DATS modules. The first signal was an eight second bandlimited tacho signal at 20Hz (1200 RPM). A section of this signal is shown below.

The other signal was a phase modulated sinewave, defined by

where the carrier frequency, , was also 20Hz, the phase modulation amplitude, m, was was set to 20 and the modulation frequency, , was set to 2Hz. That is the phase varies as ().

A section of this signal is also shown below.

With only the sine wave to see, the phase variation is not clear. However, by overlaying the two curves the phase shift is apparent from where the sine wave crosses the tacho leading edge. The variation of the phase is quite evident.

The next step was to analyse the two signals to determine the phase angle variation with time. This used a standard DATS module available in the rotating machinery analysis section. This resulted in the “twist” signal shown above. As expected the angular phase variation is ±20° and cycles every half second.

The final graph is an overlay of all three signals, each to their own scaling.

The processing of the signals includes software resampling both signals synchronously using the tacho as the master reference.This allows for the situation when both signals are varying in speed, that is it is not necessary to have constant speed signals.

#### Dr Colin Mercer

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please i need now defrant the phase angle vibration balancing

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You asked “please i need now defrant the phase angle vibration balancing” Did you mean you need to differentiate the phase angle to get rate of change of phase? You say this is in conjunction with vibration balancing. Actually we have extensive multiplane balancing software that is available with DATS. If you could explain your application a little more I may be able to help.

Colin

hi,i’m preparing for a paper presentation on signal processing.can u give ur suggestion as to what topics and aspects should b included in this.i’m in my 2nd yr. in B.Tech

Wow – what a question to ask a signal processor! There is so much. But if I had to limit myself to just one thing above all else it would be to look at the signal. Does it look like you expect it? Is it clipped? Did we actually measure anything? of many automatic systems “assume” the signal is good.

Generally the most used signal processing is frequency analysis – see for example https://blog.prosig.com/2003/07/29/notes-on-fourier-analysis/ what this class of analysis does is to express the information in term of frequencies as this is often easier to appreciate and to determine the origin. Here you have to distinguish between random data, transient data and periodic data. Each has a different progeny method; they all use Fourier analysis of course but in different ways.

Also no basic discerning signal processing is complete without considering aliasing.

Colin